Delegates meeting 12th December 2013
The Chair welcomed and thanked everyone for attending the meeting.
Apologies Received: Denise.
Minutes last meeting: All present read the previous
meeting's minutes
Matters arising..
The Penarth Times have been giving much better articles and space since
Corinne had a word with them. It was
pointed out that there are many articles in the ‘Penarth’ Times in respect to
‘Barry’??
A few people agreed that it would be good to write to the Penarth Times
and complain that there are too many Barry articles in the Penarth Times not
leaving enough space for the Penarth news especially the Skittles League scores
that players buy the Penarth Times to see what has been published. Most skittle articles sent to the Penarth
Times are published online and are printed verbatim; then Penarth Times edit
and omit items from the articles sent into them.
Liz asked if any letters sent to the Penarth Times complaining could be
also sent to her so she can put them on our website for others to have an idea
how to complain to the Penarth Times.
Corinne has received a couple of complaints that people with scores e.g.
32 were not put into the Penarth Times.
They were put online Penarth Times.
The Skittles have been a part of the Penarth Times for many years and
many people in Penarth buy it to see their scores printed to show who has been
the best and the worst. It’s part of the
game joking with each other when they have a bad or an excellent, they will be
put in print..
It was also suggested that in the past a news letter sent to all the
clubs for teams to see. This would be a
lot of work. Once a list of email
address have been put together this kind of thing can be sent around to each
Captain to show their teams..
There has been a problem with the website and those complaining about it
should come to the Delegates meetings to put forward their views.
Muriel Wills proposed and Joan seconded that the minutes are true and
correct.
Women's fixture Secretary’s report:
Team cards are still arriving late.
2nd class stamps are used and can take over a week to
arrive. When posted, the cards can be
mingled into the Conservative Clubs mail that is not manned and not opened
every day so can take time to be passed into the skittles post-box.
All teams need to know: could anyone who is late posting their card
should call Terry or Corinne and if possible scan and email the card to them.
If the cards are not received by 12pm on a Saturday they will not be
entered into the Penarth Times write up.
Men's fixture Secretary’s report:
Terry confirmed that a large amount of teams are playing short of
players. Last week there were 6 teams,
one team played with only 6 players.
Everyone was very worried about the declining numbers.
Everyone expressed their worries about this and would like the matter of
the lowest player to roll again if they are one player short?
· Only to be used on
one player short
· Call it a Joker - 2 chances per half year or
Quarter
Mike advised that this kind of thing is used in the Cardiff League and
he agreed he would obtain a copy of the rules and regulations in respect to
this. If possible find out if the
Secretary could be a guest at our next meeting in January and advise us on this.
It is feared that this will be a downhill spiral.
This will be discussed further at the next meeting.
Treasurer's report: A full report will be prepared ready for the next
meeting in January. Sue is going to
email the spread sheet she made with Ann Young to show the accounts.
AOB:
Mike advised that he asked for a game to be postponed with the Rock N
Rollers. He offered them 2 dates, they
couldn’t do the one, then he phoned them to say they couldn’t make the other
date and was waiting for them to suggest more dates. His team members found out this week that
they have claimed the game. Mike and the
team are not at all happy with this, especially as they were not told of this
happening! They apparently have lodged
that they did not arrive to play a game but Mike has a phone bill to prove he
made the call to cancel that game. Liz
asked Mike to discuss this further with Terry, if this cannot be sorted out by
the 3 parties, the 2 teams will be asked to attend a meeting to sort this out.
Corinne advised that there have been complaints in respect to the Clive
in as much as it has such a small area causing difficulty playing without arms
going over the line. Ann added that if
the cupboard door is open it is much better but the landlord will not allow
this. But another team was asked for
suggestions to make the place better for the teams and was advised they can
have the door open.
It is up to the Captains as part of their job at the home alley, to sort
out any problems at the venue.
Any throwing over the line should again be sorted out by both Captains
on the night - if not bring it to the meeting.
As Captain in the Clive, Liz will look into having the cupboard opened
to make it easier to throw.
The matter of cheating was again brought up. It is not always possible for both teams to
stay on the alley so gives the chance of teams cheating. All agreed we are playing a game and should
go on trust. Those who do cheat to win
have to live with what they are doing.
Joan was approached ask if an
11 year old could be a sticker upper.
Joan advised that they must be over 14 years old to do this. The person was not happy and demanded a copy
of the Rules - Joan advised that they come to the Delegates meeting to obtain
one.
Concerns were raised that due to teams not starting on time which is supposed
to be 8.15pm, can make the sticker upper to be there up to 10.45pm. It is not in the rules on what time the game
is to finish and it is up to the parents to state what time their child is to
go home. Liz advised that years ago she
looking into this with the council and they advised to leave it as it is as
long as possible as the council would probably insist on 18 years plus.
Terry read out a letter received from Marie Curie, thanking The Penarth
Skittle League for their donation and receipt of £2,000. Liz is going to scan the letter which goes on
to list what it will be spent on, and put it on the PSL website.
The next meeting
will take place on the 9th January 2014.
